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MAIN PAGE>MUSIC STUFF>FOXXTONE Index The FTM Part Building And Modding The FTM Section The Dreaded Swelling Experience Adding A Tube-Like Circuit Reducing Pickup Loading With A Front-End Buffer Improving The Swell Feed And Restoring Useful Control Range Using The Modified Swell Downloads Sound Samples The FTM Part This is a
report of the findings I had when I tried to get
the swell part working.
There are several almost-clones of the FOXX tone machine around, namely the ultimate octave (just a few time constants different) and the Experience Octave Pedal. Pot values seem to be widely different across the schematics I found. Fuzz Central suggests all 50k lin Pots, so do GGG, the Green-Fuz schematic suggests 100k log for all except tone. Noel Grassy confirmed 100k lin pots in his original unit and that worked for me too. Since there are at least two good PCB layouts for the FTM around (I made the Fuzz Central board) it seems feasible to just make another little board for the swell (and so I did), but the recently recovered Green-Fuz layout has been cross-checked for the swell part at least and should work too. It appears a little less crammed than other builds. Back To Index Building And Modding The FTM Section A word ahead: this is not a beginners project, this is by far the most elaborate pedal I ever made. This device uses many controls and switches and the prototype ended up with no less than four separate PCBīs. Even if somebody made a PCB that incorporates all, there are still many wires to tame. It was a challenge to fit everything inclusive battery inside the case, even although I used a higher case. Due to the complexity I do not recommend to build this from scratch for a novice. It may nevertheless be worthwhile to incorporate one or another idea into an existing design.
BTW I used
any old ge diode I found rattling in my box and
it sounds great. No mojo about that.
The Dreaded Swelling Experience The early Pete Cosey dying amp sound can nicely be done with the swell, although he achieved it in a totally different way (analog synthesizer), so it is said. A crazy effect. Thatīs the reason I am after the effect - not the acid swell per se. I have spent many an hour at the P.E. swell circuit and I was close to quitting, but I finally got it working. To cut it short, this is only KIND OF A SWELL effect and not worth the effort, if you are looking for a decent swell. Moreover it has allures and only works under certain circumstances, some of which can be cured.
I have tried EVERYTHING on this circuit, swapped transistors with high and low gain, tweaked resistors, nothing worked. The circuit kept behaving more or less like a small gain amplifier without changing the tone much. I finally left the plastic can transistors of hfe=500 because it did not seem to make any difference. R.G. Keen has encountered that the swell part only works with a fresh battery. I tried stiff voltage (local electrolytic decoupling, which is akin to a new battery) and a several kOhm sag resistor in series, higher voltage, lower voltage, which did not change the function of the modified swell circuit either way. As others have mentioned, the swell only works if it is driven by a fairly heavy signal. I observed the same thing. I therefore sincerely doubt that fuzzes like the Ampeg Scrambler do anything with the swell (this has a gain of nearly unity...) despite its extended HF spectrum. It was interesting, that as soon as I took the oscilloscope probe (which has 50 pF and 1Mohm input impedance) to the input of this circuit, the signal was immediately muted. Obviously this circuit has such big impedance, that 1MOhm would shift too much. After removing the probe again, it did the swell action with the time constant implemented. So I knew, the circuit was perfectly capable of doing its thing. But this made it kind of hard to debug. I had the volume of the FTM full up (and the swell nearly full down) and it was kind of farty distorting, but not swelling. Due to an accident I inserted an capacitor (same size as swell input cap) where the hot side of the swell pot is connected and lo and behold, it worked. As mentioned, the swell is flatulent. It seems like the massive signal on the input drives the swell circuit into some overload condition that swamps the signal momentarily and with the RC time constant it recovers, delivering a swell like effect. The only snag is that the signal gets heavily compressed and distorted when in the overload condition. This sounds indeed like the amp is on the verge of givinī up - good effect for that, but lousy swell effect. During this choking condition the tone changes to trebly until it recovers. This is probably one of the nicer aspects of the thing, because it does synth-like effects. The drawbacks of this hookup are:
On the original P.E. units the swell is only functioning in octave mode. On my breadboard I have the luxury to have everything switchable, but it is true, fore some reason it only works in octave mode, but it does indeed work with the diodes off (which I call "native" mode) to a lesser extent. This observation would lead to the conclusion, that an extended upper spectrum was needed to get the swell working, but indeed the swell only works with the tone pot towards a dark tone (treble cut). Back To Index Adding A
Tube-Like Circuit
This thing
worked one day, then refused to work the next
day. Maybe I changed something meanwhile, tone
setting, fuzz setting, who knows; I could not
revoke the effect again. Not the best basis to
herald a problem fix.
I delved into some more forum threads and stumbled over the fact that this device does not work reliably dependent on the environment it meets by the device following. R.G. Keen thinks, that it only works direct into a tube amp. This seems to be supported by the fact, that some people could not even get the swell of the commercial P.E. Electronics unit working within their rig. Restrictions like that are not something I cannot live with, so this clearly called for some wrapper that makes the unit reliably working in all environments. In case the kind reader doubts the necessity of buffering, please read my notes on buffering, pro and contra. A tube amp of vintage variety has its input usually DC coupled to the first tubeīs grid. R.O.G.īs fetzer valve does more or less emulate such a tube input to an extent, so I slung one together. Using a BF245A I would even have the 2V pinch-off voltage similar to a tube stage. The drain resistor sets the gain (relative to the source resistor), so making this one zero you have a gain of unity, a.k.a. a buffer - almost, since those are normally AC coupled. The output would be derived from the source and the ground cap there removed of course, since we donīt need additional amplification. The DC bias on the swell shifts the j-fetīs input into a non-conductive region just as expected. This valve-like stage therefore not only does the trick independent of the following deviceīs characteristics, but also serves as a low impedance driver into the bargain. Note: any other buffer that is not based on an auto-biasing j-fet input stage or similar does will very likely not achieve the desired effect. Since the added series resistor introduces quite a hefty drive impedance (by a magnitude greater than the unaltered drive resistance), the output drive capability might be impaired, so the before mentioned j-fet stage has been moved from right after the swell section towards after the "swell" switch (which I named "choke") to cater for both circuit sections. The absence of an input blocking capacitor does not present a problem, since the FTMīs output is AC-coupled and there is no DC on the volume pot. Back To Index Reducing Pickup Loading With A Front-End Buffer I also observed that driving the FTM directly with stock single coils over a few meters of good quality cable results in a dramatic darkening of tone as soon as the guitarīs volume is taken back. This can only be caused by heavy loading of the guitarīs output. Again, a standard buffer in front of the FTM and that is the end of that. There is little concern about current consumption, because the FTM plus swell is with a consumption of about 2.6 mA inclusive two LEDīs one of the most frugal stomp boxes I know. While the added circuitry increased complexity somewhat, the number of possibilities has increased too. I have refrained from making another complete schematic drawing; Since there are probably thousands of FTM clones out there, I rather display a block diagram with the add-ons that allows every builder to hot-rod their existing device to taste. Back To Index Improving The Swell Feed And Restoring Useful Control Range As mentioned before, the swell needs a fairly hefty signal on its input. Taking the full output signal of the FTM (on the outer lug of the volume pot) worked, but experimentation showed that a slight signal reduction would improve the situation. It also turned out that the swell works best when treble is pretty down (despite the fact that it works better with octave setting). Since the tone control is fully down, there is not much leeway left for tone adjustment in the swell mode. It looks like the swell wants for good functioning a much lower treble setting than were useful in the "fuzz" mode. Both conditions are very unhandy, because when switching the swell off (back to "fuzz") you are left with very loud and dark settings. Fortunately both challenges are very easy to remedy. The swell can be fed via a separate resistive divider (a frozen separate volume control so to speak) that sets a level somewhat below full signal, but independent of the volume control. In series to this resides an additional passive low pass filter. This way the mix also contains less treble. I also observed that the swell does not work so good on low strings, which I attribute to increased bass content thereof. I replaced the 220n cap on the swell input with a 22nF cap and this improved the situation vastly with no apparent bass drop in the output signal. The new feed network allows for independent volume settings for the FTM and swell part and restores the usable and useful range of the tone control for both sections. The values were devised empirically and can be tailored to need.
Back To Index Using The Modified Swell The overall gain and compression FTM+swell seems so high that the swell texture is mostly subject to the guitarīs volume control with a given setting of the "sustain" control. [This is another good reason why the guitarīs smooth volume control function should not be crippled by a load, read more on my notes on buffering]. The swellīs behavior can also be modified by the FTMīs tone control setting. By the application of the above mentioned measures the swell is to an extent freed from the bondage of the octave mode. It works in several modes to a lesser extent. In some mode it cuts the signal envelope rather than swelling, which gives a trumpet-like effect. The Listen to the sound demos. R.G. Keen observed with the units he had that the swell part only worked with a fresh battery. I tried stiff voltage (local electrolytic decoupling, which is akin to a new battery) and a few hundred Ohms sag resistor in series, which did not change the function of the modified swell circuit either way. So it appears pretty stable. Back To Index Downloads
Since I do not recall seeing one on the web, hereīs a pcb of the swell circuit:
The depicted circuits and changes are verified. This does not, however, preclude the possibility of error particularly in the drawings. Please let me know if you detect any. Back To Index Sound Samples The subsequent recordings have been done using the following setup:
Note: these are rough cuts. The focus is on demonstrating the effect. As mentioned, the swell is not comparable with any other, dedicated swelling device, but rather a unique feature. I preferred to rename the control to "choke" because this suits its effect better. Some sound files that demonstrate the merits of a buffer in front of the FTM and the merits of true bypassing thereof are shown in a section dedicated to buffering. Update History
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